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April 21, 2008

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andy

"in Blackwater's case, on no-bid government crony contracts"

"more and more corporate welfare through the tax code is even more ludicrous."

"It's time to do what's right, instead of creating a climate where anything goes for big business."

for whatever it's worth, the over-the-top statements on this blog tend to detract from your arguments rather than support them. i wonder what purpose is served by them. if the goal is to vent, then that's one thing, but it's distracting to try to go through a substantive post and then keep getting hit with hyperbolic statements.

John

Andy: Just a quick note. I think the "crony" label fits. Blackwater is led by Eric Prince, brother of Betsy (Prince) De Vos. She is married to Dick De Vos of the Amway fortune - big Republican contributors. Betsy is past chair of the Michigan Republican Party. Dick ran for Governor in 2006. He lost in a landslide after it was disclosed that he (as CEO) sent manufacturing jobs to China.

andy

John: whether or not the label "crony" fits (I have no idea), I think e.g. the progressive/libertarian case for a presumptive-employee rule can be made (and can be made much more strongly) without frequent resort to overstatements.

Using overbearing language just means that the people who already agree with you will agree with you more, and that the people who might possibly be persuaded will be turned away by the empty rhetoric. I just don't understand why it's done in this context (i.e. where there are strong critical/substantive points to make), unless one is just trying to vent.

John

Ever read anything by Tom Paine?

LindaMBeale

Andy,
You say that it is "hyperbolic" to use what I believe to be an objectively accurate term "crony" to describe a relationship between a particular contractor (Blackwater) and the current regime in power through which that contractor has acquired lucrative contracts and has at the same time characterized its workers in ways that are disadvantageous for the employees but advantageous for the employer for tax purposes. John's response to your comment highlights a few of the reasons the crony label is appropriate.

I agree with you that reading blog posts that insert extraneous opinions into a substantive discussion can be irritating. But I strongly disagree with the notion that pointing out the cronyism problem in this context is that kind of extraneous opinion.

In fact, it is a point that is terribly important to be made in the tax policy context: policies that are easily captured by such crony relationships present genuine justice concerns. The potential for crony ripoffs is one of the reasons thathaving a default rule (that workers are employees)is a good idea. Such a rule makes it harder for crony contracts to yield as big a benefit.

You know, of course, that these kinds of marred relationships are the topic of significant scholarship as well. Public choice theory, among others, considers such contexts. I question a good bit of the "law and economics" approach (since I think many of the most interesting questions are assumed away), but I do think the analysis of policy decisionmaking is important.

So, from my blog perspective, which is one that is interested in considering the interrelationship between appropriate tax policy and sustainable democractic institutions, cronyism is a substantive issue that we need to think about. To disregard it (by not mentioning it) is to hide it under the fig-leaf of arm's length transactions, which is, at least sometimes, a truly misleading characterization.

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