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June 30, 2009

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r. willis

seems to me that if you are working from home you should be able to take some kind of deduction even if the kids or the cat occasionally use the same space. probably abused, yes, but also difficult to quantify. so if you give people a flat elective amount, maybe they will be less likely to claim more, and those that do can be more readily selected for examination.

LindaMBeale

I don't see the need for an election. Taxpayers will likely compute their deduction both ways and take the most generous so that it will benefit those who weren't otherwise entitled to as much of a deduction as the "standard" deduction provides. Simplification simply is not a strong enough justification. If someone really has a home office for their business, it should be relatively easy to substantiate the office deduction (pictures twice annually of the space, etc.). I don't agree on the basic premise that use by kids or cat shouldn't be a problem--either it is a home or a home office. If the space is used by the kids and cat (i.e., it functions as a family room/den), then it is not an added expense endured for the sake of the business and shouldn't be deductible.

DFMahey

What it comes down to is that many Americans don't take the home office tax deductions because of the law's complexity and the the record keeping requirements. In reality the real reason is a lot of people have this notion, that was probably more accurate 15 to 20 years ago, that they will be audited. While I realize that those points may mean nothing to you the fact is that the HOD is a legal statutory deduction and if those eligible are not taking the deduction than something is wrong.


If you read the reasoning behind the proposal one of the pieces of research associated with the proposed bill is that according to according to research from the U.S. Small Business Administration indicates that roughly 53 percent of America’s small businesses are home-based, but few home businesses actually take advantage of the tax incentive because of the complex reporting requirements.

LindaMBeale

I had understood that some research suggests that the deduction isn't used as much as it "could" be. But I am not sure I find it convincing.

Anecdotally, I hear about tax preparers "inventing" a home office deduction and/or "guesstimating" reasonable depreciation and utility deductions for home offices when it is clear that a business that may be conducted using the home would not qualify for a deduction because it doesn't have a space that is set aside for which the expenses are clearly business rather than personal. Many caterers and others in the food prep industry, for example, may simply be using an existing home space with very little marginal cost for the business itself. A "standard deduction" would be permitting the business to deduct personal costs, as would a "de minimis" personal use standard, which would result in all of those businesses likely claiming business deductions. Just because a deduction exists does not mean it should be set up in such a simple way that every business that might be eligible actually takes it. Given the kinds of abuses of taxes that we have seen over and over again, it is reasonable for the benefit of easily abused provisions to be harder to obtain.

r. willis

but if you allow a flat 1500, you take a lot of potential audit issues off the table and allow IRS to focus its attention on abusers

Charles

Home office deduction is ridiculous. The scam is for commuting, since all mileage becomes business mileage. that's the only time I see the fraudsters benefit. Linda, I would like to know, does the IRS ensure these 8829 people recapture their depreciation when they sell?

LindaMBeale

i haven't noticed (or specifically looked to see) if there are any studies on how well depreciation recapture is working in this area. I suspect you are correct that many (if not most) who claim a home office deduction don't take the recapture into account on a sale. If I were hazarding a guess--with an understaffed and underresourced IRS, it probably is another time-consuming compliance check that is left undone more often than not.

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